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Ida | 1075 nach | 1138 | de_Lorraine | kat. | Ida von Lothringen (-1138), Tochter des Dietrich duc de Lorraine aus dem Hause von Habsburg, und der Hedwig von Formbach. | Lorraine, Tenglin, Zeidlergau | Rübel-Blass 221, 268, 269; ZhWr 32 | Cop. Sieghard II, Graf im Zeidlergau, von Schala | 23p43115 | 03.06.01 22:48:05 | 111.1.1.1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Agnes | 1350 vor | na | Agnes Lor wohl Tochter des Johannes Lor von Thun. | Thun, Bern, Wattenwyl | Thun, Bern | Rübel-Blass 131, 114, von 128 | Cop. 1. Jakob von Wattenwyl | 42p41618 | 03.03.02 09:48:11 | 111.1.1.1 | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Johannes | 1325 um | na | Johannes Lor von Thun wahr wohl der Vater von Agnes Lor der Gemahlin des Jakob von Wattenwyl. | Thun | Thun | Rübel-Blass 131 | 42p41618 | 03.03.02 09:50:36 | 111.1.1.1 | Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT) |
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